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      CommentAuthorjenskot
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 1
    There are many crappy movies that suck but after I'm like... I would so play that as an RPG!

    What crappy movie would you play as an RPG?

    Which character would you play?

    What system would you use?
  2.  # 2
    Reign of Fire would've made an awesome tactical board game. As an RPG... hm... Carry? Grey Ranks? Something gritty.

    Oh wait... Mythender, obviously.
  3.  # 3
    Red Dawn, man. We played "one town over" using PTA, so this is not mere speculation.

    WOLVERIIIIIIIINES!
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      CommentAuthorjenskot
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 4
    I would play the ghostly grandpa who didn't go to hell but has friends who did that taught him how to shoot lightning and now he guides his grandson but can't directly help him when it matters but can also stop time and interfere when it doesn't matter from Troll 2 using Dread (Jenga).
    • CommentAuthorJ. Walton
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 5
    The Ultraviolet RPG is about the best example of this that I can think of. Dev actually played it.
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      CommentAuthorAndy
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 6
    Oh, man. So many good ones.

    Ones I would like to see, but would probably require some sort of setting of their own, would be Hellraiser II, Warlock 2, maybe xXx.

    xXx would be hard, because its' hard to come up with action-y/extreme sports set piece setups on the fly. Or play them as anything other than "a series of skill rolls, where if you fail once you die and the game ends".

    Warlock 2. I loved it back in the day, but it's a pretty crappy movie. It would be a game where a cabal of potential druids fight Julian Sands. Every game would require the players to each narrate a scene where they are Julian Sands, another player is Random Shmo, and Julain Sands totally fucks up Random Shmo in a cruel way.

    Hellraiser II was not a crappy movie. It is probably one of the greatest horror movies ever made (though the special effects are VERY dated if you watch it now), though it's attached to a really shitty franchise.
    But I'd love to have a game about normal people who enter and exit Hell to save people close to them, with some face-time to the agents of Hell (perhaps a second character sheet where you play a Cenobite as well?).

    One crappy movie that made a GREAT game for us was Night Watch (although I took a lot of my cues from the books more than the movies, but still). We played out "The Seattle Branch", which was basically Night Watch in the US, combining US-style individualism with good-ol Russian Nightwatch style Cold War standoff politics.

    -Andy
    • CommentAuthorValamir
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009 edited
     # 7
    Highlander II.

    The single worst sequel ever made. As part of the Highlander Franchise it is dead to me.

    BUT, divorced from that franchise...a quasi messianic figure who can hear all the worlds thoughts, atmosphere shields, bad dudes on flying skateboards and an asshole tyrant from another planet who teleports political dissidents to Earth...actually would be kind of fun to play.
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      CommentAuthorAndy
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 8
    Posted By: ValamirThe single worst sequel ever made.


    Undoubtedly. Part of a wave of about 5 movies that were entirely funded by oil barons looking to act popular at soirees for having produced a movie, their "input" basically nuked whatever the movie could be. Apparently there was a Sally Worth movie around that time, the same story.

    Highlander III wasn't Magic, but it was pretty ok. So like how movies have a sub-title, like "HIGHLANDER 3: THE QUICKENING", I referred to it as "HIGHLANDER 3: THIS IS HIGHLANDER 2".

    Sorry, this was neither here nor there.
    • CommentAuthorRoger
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 9
    "Jumper" has this written all over it, in my opinion. I haven't read the books so I can't comment on those.
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      CommentAuthorNathan H.
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009 edited
     # 10
    Posted By: ValamirBUT, divorced from that franchise...a quasi messianic figure who can hear all the worlds thoughts, atmosphere shields, bad dues on flying skateboards and an asshole tyrant from another planet who teleports political dissidents to Earth...actually would be kind of fun to play.

    and an immortal train.

    (edited shitty-ass grammer)
    • CommentAuthorJ. Walton
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 11
    Both Jumper: The Jumpening and Push: The Pushing scream White Wolf heartbreaker to me ("we are hot, tormented X-Men outsiders with kick-ass powers"), only somewhat less than the Underworld series does.

    Also, nobody's mentioned Brotherhood of the Wolf yet.
    • CommentAuthorValamir
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 12
    Also, nobody's mentioned Brotherhood of the Wolf yet.


    Perhaps because that movie was pure unadulterated awesome. I have killed people for implying otherwise.
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      CommentAuthorrenatoram
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 13
    Ditto. Brotherhood of the Wolf is definitely not a crappy movie.

    Surely not a Berlin Golden Bear winner, but who cares?
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      CommentAuthorRyan Macklin
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009 edited
     # 14
    The initial concept of Mythender came to me after watching the recent Beowulf flick in IMAX.

    I'm also tempted to make a "Awesome Games make Crappy Movies!" joke-thread, but Uwe Boll lives that joke better than I ever could tell it.
  15.  # 15
    The Lord of the Rings trilogy, totally. That thing had RPG written all over it. I would play an Ent wizard and all my spells would take like four days to cast.
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      CommentAuthorJuddG
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 16
    Posted By: ValamirPerhaps because that movie was pure unadulterated awesome. Ihavekilled people for implying otherwise.


    Thirded. Also, I liked "Push" as well.

    "Jumper" made me see red. I am convinced that Anakin-boy is one of the worst actors in the history of bad acting. Also, the protagonist of that movie was a miserable person and squandered his gift in the most ridiculous ways. Also, if he was too lazy to walk 15 feet instead of Jumping, why was he still all rail thin and emo?
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      CommentAuthorOgremarco
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
     # 17
    I played in a game based on Mean Guns. That certainly counts.
  18.  # 18
    I try to avoid crappy movies. Unfortunately...

    The Golden Compass movie would make a better game than the books, as there's clearly an adventuring party involved there.
    • CommentAuthorefindel
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 19
    The scriptwriters for the movie "Jumper" were idiots. The book, however, is interesting and original, as is the sequel, "Reflex", and the movie tie-in book (written by the author of the original two books), "Jumper: Griffin's Story". If you think you'd want to do a game based on Jumper, read all three.
  20.  # 20
    Ditto, Travis: Jumper the movie was... weak sauce and illogical. Jumper the book was a dark and riveting tale (and illogical). Frankly, folks who can teleport would quickly rule the world, not dick around with petty theft (yes, millions is petty, in this context).
  21.  # 21
    Whoops! Forgot to add my crappy movie cum cool RPG. OK, I'll say it:

    The Matrix.

    Sorry, but while I thought it was pretty cool, in an amateurish way of handling VR/The Net/Cyberspace (never mind the truly ridiculous pseudo-science), I really walked out thinking how it could be a great game; a twist on Shadowrun.
  22.  # 22
    My favorite thing about this thread is how it gives people the opportunity to declare their own tastes as fact.
  23.  # 23

    Hellraiser II was not a crappy movie. It is probably one of the greatest horror movies ever made (though the special effects are VERY dated if you watch it now), though it's attached to a really shitty franchise. But I'd love to have a game about normal people who enter and exit Hell to save people close to them, with some face-time to the agents of Hell (perhaps a second character sheet where you play a Cenobite as well?).

    Clive Barker was a big influence on my gaming as a teenager. In retrospect, I think what attracted me was his use of metaphors for disenfranchisement, most markedly homosexuality. There was a lot of visual creativity to both Hellraiser and Nightbreed. Too bad they really weren't good movies.

    But Nightbreed, in particular, is both structured well (there's a coming apocalypse with human motivations — that's both antagonist and pressure) and has a lot of potential for creativity (I'm a girl whose parasitic twin sees the future when I'm having sex! I'm a perpetual baby with gills! I'm the last of my people, with whom I share an empathic link!) that could make the world really visually rich. Put that character in a place in Midian society with relationships to other Nightbreed, and you'll find yourself fighting for and against stuff.

    The moral structure of Hellraiser is dull for me. Intellectual and sensual hubris is a concept that we need to explore more, rather than simply vilifying. But the puzzle box and the Cenobite masochists were aesthetically really punchy.

    Ultraviolet. Heh.

    That movie was silly. That RPG.net thread is spot on, but oddly, it starts to look like fun. I don't have a problem with random events, so long as you get to create the aesthetic ones. Hey, didn't that come out at the same time as an Æon Flux live-action movie? I bet that was a crappy movie. Did anyone see it? I couldn't bear to.

    • CommentAuthorchaldfont
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 24
    House and House II made for some great one-shot games back in the day.
    • CommentAuthorefindel
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 25
    Posted By: David ArtmanDitto, Travis: Jumper the movie was... weak sauce and illogical. Jumper the book was a dark and riveting tale (and illogical). Frankly, folks who can teleport would quickly rule the world, not dick around with petty theft (yes, millions is petty, in this context).


    Well, the original book had one person, not people -- and the main thrust of the story is the limitations he places on himself, when you get down to it. The Davy of the books doesn't want to rule the world.
    • CommentAuthorJLow
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 26
    Posted By: Colin_Fredericks

    The Golden Compass movie would make a better game than the books, as there's clearly an adventuring party involved there.


    Oh, I totally agree with this and actually thought about it while reading the book, too.

    Let's see:

    -Prince Caspian. That movie was a huge, steaming pile of crap, but it had sort of a cool setting that could be translated easily into Burning Wheel, IMHO.

    -The Craft. This would work with First Quest, Best Friends, or PTA. I really like watching The Craft but I know that it's a lousy movie.
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      CommentAuthorJuddG
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 27
    Posted By: Joshua A.C. NewmanÆon Flux live-action movie? I betthatwas a crappy movie. Did anyone see it? I couldn't bear to.


    I did, and it wasn't bad. It was a biotech warning note and one of those death define life puzzle boxes (no idea where the silly idea that death in any way adds to the experience of life came from, but I feel strongly that is wrong).

    Also, Robert, everyone regards their tastes as facts, but the whole nature of the topic requires a judgment call.
  28.  # 28
    Posted By: JuddGAlso, Robert, everyone regards their tastes as facts

    This is not universally so.
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      CommentAuthordroog
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
     # 29
    Showgirls would make a great game.
  30.  # 30
    I will now make my next oneshot Showgirls.
  31.  # 31

    I did, and it wasn't bad. It was a biotech warning note and one of those death define life puzzle boxes (no idea where the silly idea that death in any way adds to the experience of life came from, but I feel strongly that is wrong).

    The fact that I can't even figure out what this extended sentence-like list of words means probably indicates the reason you might like a movie that I shied away from. That's not a value judgment. It's a recognition of our mutually alien nervous systems.

    Æon flux is about foot fetishes, constant disorientation, and the recurring death of the protagonist. The movie didn't seem to be about that at all, from the trailers. Charlize Theron also doesn't possess enough elbows to properly play the part.

    • CommentAuthorzipht
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2009
     # 32
    V, Would make an awesome game of PTA.
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      CommentAuthordroog
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2009
     # 33
    Posted By: Brand_RobinsI will now make my next oneshot Showgirls.


    Oh, boy, I really want to read the AP for that!
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      CommentAuthorRemi
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2009 edited
     # 34
    I feel like The American Astronaut would be a fun world to play a light, absurdist sf adventure in.

    The Covenant could also be a hoot to play as a highly PvP game of shifting alliances.
    • CommentAuthoralgi
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2009
     # 35
    I'm thinking that maybe the makers of these crappy movies want to achieve an experience which is inherent in RPGs, but they don't know RPGs and think that this experience is mostly inherent in movies and don't care about what language do movies use.
  36.  # 36
    Posted By: Robert Bohl
    Posted By: JuddGAlso, Robert, everyone regards their tastes as facts
    This is not universally so.
    Oh, the irony....
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      CommentAuthorJuddG
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2009
     # 37
    I am apparently having a clarity problem I will attempt to fix in another topic.

    For this one: I think people regard their tastes as factual because they have reasons for them that they are happy to discuss at length in most cases. I think most people also know that their tastes are their own, but aggressive recruiting has been known to occur under the guise of absolutism.

    Also, the "Aeon Flux" movie was very different from the animated feature, but it did preserve the many deaths angle is a very side-long manner. Aeon had apparently died numerous times before the movie starts. The plot also has a moral built into it that death is some sort of vital bookend that makes living mean something. This concept is not sensible to me. I refuse to believe we only have meaning in retrospect.
    • CommentAuthorJDCorley
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 38
    I'm trying to remember the first time I posted 'shitty movies make great gaming' on the Internet. The earliest I've found so far is 2003. I'm so proud you folks figured it out. I only had to yell it on every board forever. Now I can retire knowing I have Elevated The Discourse.
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      CommentAuthorjenskot
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 39
    The best lessons are learned from experience!
  40.  # 40
    I think the converse is true : Great films don't make good games.

    I once tried to use Kenji Misoguchi's Street of Shame (1956) as a background for a Cthulhu game. The results were not good. I also tried to extract the themes from Max Ophul's The Sorrow and the Pity (1969) and use them to ornament a game of Malefices and it worked quite well as the players investigated this world of class envy, right-wing conspiratorial thought and intense antisemitism but it kind of fell apart when one of our regular players returned to the game, didn't know anything about the setting, or want to learn and announced "right, we're leaving the village" forcing me to ad lib unsuccessfully for the rest of the session.

    I actually think that Brotherhood of the Wolf would make a terrible game. I can't fucking stand gonzo historical roleplay. "You meet Louis the XIV and he's got a cybernetic arm he uses to tell the future, you are his minions" or "Clement Atlee summons you and informs you that only you can save the Post-War Labour government from the depredations of Sauron" or "you are sailors onboard the ship of James Cook, you have just discovered Australia and found it to be under the heel of a steam-powered Cobra Commander". Either a historical setting is interesting enough to support a game or it isn't. Adding mecha made out of elephant bones or ninjas with doldoes for hands does not make a setting interesting. Quite the opposite in fact.
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      CommentAuthorJosh Roby
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 41
    Posted By: Jonathan Mmecha made out of elephant bones
    Oooo...
    • CommentAuthorJDCorley
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 42
    I'm with Josh. Historical mashups are rad, even hilarious. Didn't you ever get drunk and watch Xena? 'Course ya did.
  43.  # 43
    Well, sure, Xena, everyone watched that. But that was for the lesbian subtext, wasn't it?
  44.  # 44
    Surely the question is whether one would prefer to watch the episodes of Xena set in Rome or whether one would rather watch the BBC's adaptation of I Claudius.
  45.  # 45
    The crappyness of the following movies is totally debatable, but not here, and not now, and I refuse to participate:

    The robocop franchise
    Alien Resurection (the fourth film in the quadrilogy)
    Christmas on Mars: a fantastic film freakout featuring the flaming lips
    Blankman
    One crazy summer
    Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull
  46.  # 46
    I don't see why the quality of the films has to be taken as absolute in any sense. If you find a film to be crappy, then possibly it'll be an awesome gaming setting for you. The problem arises when members of your gaming group have wildly different views of the quality of the source materiel.
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      CommentAuthorJohn Powell
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009 edited
     # 47
    Posted By: Accounting for TasteWell, sure, Xena, everyone watched that. But that was for the lesbian subtext, wasn't it?


    That was subtext??!

    Anyways my crappy tv show soon-to-be even crappier movie that would make an awesome game: Land of the Lost.
  48.  # 48
    Posted By: Peter AronsonI don't see why the quality of the films has to be taken as absolute in any sense.


    Because aesthetic principles are hardwired into our brain and a failure to comply with those principles results in a bad film. In the wider scheme of things aesthetic principles aren't objective, but this is because in the wider scheme of things all values are ultimately meaningless in the face of an utterly random and ferociously inhospitable universe. Saying that there's no such things as bad films or that you think bad films are good is a bit like being colour-blind. Yes Organge might well appear blue to you but that's because there's something wrong with your brain. So, for example, if you think that Star Wars is better than Misoguchi's Street of Shame, you should consult a neurologist.
  49.  # 49
    Posted By: Jonathan M
    Posted By: Peter AronsonI don't see why the quality of the films has to be taken as absolute in any sense.


    Because aesthetic principles are hardwired into our brain and a failure to comply with those principles results in a bad film. In the wider scheme of things aesthetic principles aren't objective, but this is because in the wider scheme of things all values are ultimately meaningless in the face of an utterly random and ferociously inhospitable universe. Saying that there's no such things as bad films or that you think bad films are good is a bit like being colour-blind. Yes Organge might well appear blue to you but that's because there's something wrong with your brain. So, for example, if you think that Star Wars is better than Misoguchi's Street of Shame, you should consult a neurologist.

    Not testable. Thus, opinion. Also pompous: " if you think that Star Wars is better than Misoguchi's Street of Shame, you should consult a neurologist" is rude, self-righteous opinion attempting to wrap itself in scientific fact in order to borrow some of sciences societal prestige. It doesn't make it objectively true in any sense.

    (I have this argument occasionally with my wife and her brother, who have English and Art History degrees (and Law degrees). They have a strong desire to hold that some books are objectively better than others, but they can't really come up with anything better than proof by assertion or proof by incredulity
  50.  # 50
    Posted By: Peter Aronson
    Not testable. Thus, opinion. Also pompous: " if you think that Star Wars is better than Misoguchi's Street of Shame, you should consult a neurologist" is rude, self-righteous opinion attempting to wrap itself in scientific fact in order to borrow some of sciences societal prestige. It doesn't make it objectively true in any sense.

    (I have this argument occasionally with my wife and her brother, who have English and Art History degrees (and Law degrees). They have a strong desire to hold that some books are objectively better than others, but they can't really come up with anything better than proof by assertion or proof by incredulity


    I disagree that it's untestable (I'd also point out that falsifiability is not the bastion of scientific method it was considered back in Popper's day); test people for taste and see whether the same proportion of people have taste across different cultures and up-bringings. In fact, there's a growing field of neuroaesthetics that's related to art and I think there's also been research in music.

    As for pompous and rude, yes... that's the effect I was going for.

    As for your argument, you haven't presented one. You've just taken a position of scepticism and quoted out-dated philosophical slogans.
  51.  # 51
    Posted By: Jonathan MI disagree that it's untestable (I'd also point out that falsifiability is not the bastion of scientific method it was considered back in Popper's day); test people for taste and see whether the same proportion of people have taste across different cultures and up-bringings. In fact, there's a growing field of neuroaesthetics that's related to art and I think there's also been research in music.
    That would measure popularity, but quality? Only if you defined popularity as as quality. In which case I suspect Star Wars would come out ahead. (And I have found that people that take criticisms of logical positivism very seriously aren't those actually doing actual work in the hard sciences.)

    Posted By: Jonathan MAs for pompous and rude, yes... that's the effect I was going for
    Think highly of yourself, don't you?

    Posted By: Jonathan MAs for your argument, you haven't presented one. You've just taken a position of scepticism and quoted out-dated philosophical slogans.
    It wasn't meant to be an argument, just an observation. And what "out-dated philosophical slogans"?
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      CommentAuthordroog
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009 edited
     # 52
    I live for the day when somebody makes me my Bergman game.

    [I really do agree that there are some objectively crappy things about Star Wars.]
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      CommentAuthorNathan H.
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 53
    Ingmar or Ingrid?
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      CommentAuthordroog
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009
     # 54
    Ingmar, baby. Ingrid just looked good.
    • CommentAuthorBurr
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2009 edited
     # 55
    Zaat should make the most awesome game ever, then.
  56.  # 56
    Posted By: Kevin Allen Jr
    Blankman


    I have never once been interested in supers roleplaying until now.

    I submit: Encino Man. The game where you, a loser/weasel, dig up a caveman who, bizarrely, immediately shoots you into the stratosphere of high-school popularity. How much you lean on him for said popularity introduces complications, and the end-game triggers when enough of these have built up and either you can't hold up the facade that he's an exchange student from Estonia any longer, or he begins to realize who he is, or, ideally, both.

    Yes, I love this bad movie. When I was a kid I read the junior novelization a lot. That literary taste is probably what led me to love the Dragonlance novels in high school.
  57.  # 57
    Posted By: hansel
    Yes, I love this bad movie. When I was a kid I read the junior novelization alot. That literary taste is probably what led me to love the Dragonlance novels in high school.


    I'd say that Encino Man is vastly superior to Dragonlance. Being vomited on by a homeless person is vastly superior to Dragonlance.

    Check out the fresh nuggs, wheezing the juice, ah-wooo Buuuuuuh-ddy!
  58.  # 58
  59.  # 59

    Jonathan, I totally agree with you.

    History is fucking gnarly.

    I mean, dude, Benjamin Franklin was a revolutionary, an expatriate, an inventor, a scientist, and a renowned ladies' man of many, many ladies much younger than he, despite being one homely motherfucker. No clockwork robots required.

    King Arthur (assuming he was a real dude), was the product of rape, carried a sword made out of a meteorite, and was the greatest diplomat since the fall of Rome. Who needs dragons?

    Lorenzo de'Medici was a brutal thug who hired Leonardo to make cool stuff so that his competition wouldn't have him to make siege machines, managed to make a merchant empire out of assassination and the cleverness that comes from not being inbred like the nobles he was competing with,

    ... and so on. Pick a period. Things were gnarly.

    (Holy crap. Meant to post that yesterday.)

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      CommentAuthororklord
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
     # 60
    To get the thread back on track....

    I would totally play The Blood of Heroes as an RPG!

    Post apocalyptic extreme sports? Who doesn't want to?

    I would play a Chain-wielding refugee from a dog town that was destroyed by raiders.

    For system, I would use Savage Worlds, but I'd drift in some Blood Bowl for the jug contests.
  61.  # 61
    Split Second is so totally like an RPG already. "We need bigger guns! BIG F*CKING GUNS!" Doesn't that sound like every PC ever? The script was probably taken from someone's cyberpunk campaign.
  62.  # 62

    Certainly you're aware that Vincent Baker's new game, Apocalypse World, has a name list from which you must choose your character's names according to gender and class. And one of the list is characters Rutger Hauer played.

    • CommentAuthorRoger
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009
     # 63
    We've come all this way in the thread without mentioning Gymkata?
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      CommentAuthorNathan H.
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009 edited
     # 64
    Robocop!?
    Wha wha what?
    Hot Potato
    If anyone here has watched this movie in it's entirety, I commend you.
    I'm not sure any game could emulate it's horror.
    I would love to play me some Crippled Avengers though!
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      CommentAuthorKrippler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009
     # 65
    The Conan movies.
  66.  # 66
    Posted By: Joshua A.C. Newman

    Certainly you're aware that Vincent Baker's new game, Apocalypse World, has a name list from which you must choose your character's names according to gender and class. And one of the list is characters Rutger Hauer played.


    Certainly I was not! But now I am, and my life feels richer.
    • CommentAuthorTulpa
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009
     # 67
    Posted By: RemiI feel likeThe American Astronautwould be a fun world to play a light, absurdist sf adventure in.

    The Covenantcould also be a hoot to play as a highly PvP game of shifting alliances.


    Oh wow really? I will state right now that American Astronaut is not only a great film but the only good musical ever made. The entire genre is trash except for that movie.

    MY OPINION IS FACT.

    Posted By: Kevin Allen Jr...
    Christmas on Mars: a fantastic film freakout featuring the flaming lips
    ...


    Christmas on Mars is what happens when you're not quite as remarkably talented as the people behind the American Astronaut so you decide just to try and make a carbon copy and fill it with boring things that you thought looked cool during your latest drug freakout. Christmas on Mars is not a bad movie, it's unwatchable.

    Now that I have participated in my share of threadcrapping, I will up the ante:
    Lord of the Rings

    but an answer that isn't total flamebait:
    The Last Starfighter - it's the only movie I could think of that I would want to play a game of that was actually bad and not actually awesome but campy.
  68.  # 68
    Posted By: orklordI would totally playThe Blood of Heroesas an RPG!


    Juggers! Hell yeah! I thought that movie was rad (when I was, uh, 12). I haven't dared to see it again. If I could even find it anywhere. That was the same time period when I loved that TV show about aliens who come to earth looking like humans, but they're really reptiles with skin masks...

    Anyway. I want the RPG for those crappy survival movies where criminals are tossed together on an island and have to fight each other to get out, or whatnot. I remember at least two of those movies, both so crappy that I can't even remember their names (was Ray Liota in one?). But think about it: you make an RPG about it, make the characters MUCH more interesting, and you've got a cool crucible for them to bump against each other in.
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      CommentAuthororklord
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009
     # 69
    Posted By: Quintin StoneSplit Secondis so totally like an RPG already. "We need bigger guns! BIG F*CKING GUNS!" Doesn't that sound like every PC ever? The script was probably taken from someone's cyberpunk campaign.


    Good call, Quintin!

    Hey... notice all the Rutger Hauer references on this list? Interesting trend.
    • CommentAuthorJonathan M
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     # 70
    Posted By: Tulpa
    Oh wow really? I will state right now that American Astronaut is not only a great film but the only good musical ever made. The entire genre is trash except for that movie.

    MY OPINION IS FACT.


    I'd agree with that. I hate musicals but I adore The American Astronaut.

    There are flashes of genius in that film.
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      CommentAuthoroliof
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     # 71
    Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter
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    Posted By: Christian GriffenAnyway. I want the RPG for those crappy survival movies where criminals are tossed together on an island and have to fight each other to get out, or whatnot. I remember at least two of those movies, both so crappy that I can't even remember their names (was Ray Liota in one?). But think about it: you make an RPG about it, make the characters MUCH more interesting, and you've got a cool crucible for them to bump against each other in.

    Yeah, Ray Liotta was in the prison island movie No Escape.
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      CommentAuthorgraypawn
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     # 73
    Posted By: OgremarcoI played in a game based onMean Guns. That certainly counts.


    I find it hilarious that we're so on the same page, Ogre. I was reading this thinking...Mean Guns...Say it...Mean Guns...

    http://www.indie-rpgs.com/games/unstore/game/28
    I want to buy this. so. bad. (i'm poor).

    And i'm not commenting on the Good/Badness of it, but someday i want to play a game that feels like Heavy Metal. I want to play a Dinosaur with a Flying V guitar, that has an Angel in Bondage Gear for a girlfriend.
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      CommentAuthorJuddG
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2009
     # 74
    Posted By: graypawnsomeday i want to play a game that feels likeHeavy Metal. I want to play a Dinosaur with a Flying V guitar, that has an Angel in Bondage Gear for a girlfriend.


    Sounds like you need to find "Orbit" by Psychobilly Games. It is more like Octane in Space, but seems to have some of the feel you are going for.
    • CommentAuthormadunkieg
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2009 edited
     # 75
    Yamakasi - but it would pretty much take a group of people who practice either parkour or freerunning to play it, and since I've only got one player like that right now...

    I'm A Cyborg, But That's OK really didn't do it for me as a movie, particularly some of the silliness, but I think the sort of player investment that happens in a roleplaying game could really make it work
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      CommentAuthorRyan Macklin
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009 edited
     # 76
    Posted By: oliofJesus Christ Vampire Hunter

    OMFG YES! I own that movie specifically so I can prove to people it exists.

    Similarly, it's not a movie but it *did* inspire a friend of mine: Michael Jackson's Thriller video.
    He wanted to run an All Flesh game where singing & dancing were your attack & defense skills.
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      CommentAuthortomg
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     # 77
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians played with 3:16.
    • CommentAuthorreaction
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     # 78
    Posted By: Andy
    Hellraiser II was not a crappy movie. It is probably one of the greatest horror movies ever made (though the special effects are VERY dated if you watch it now), though it's attached to a really shitty franchise.
    But I'd love to have a game about normal people who enter and exit Hell to save people close to them, with some face-time to the agents of Hell (perhaps a second character sheet where you play a Cenobite as well?).


    This is pretty much Don't Rest Your Head as written, with DLYM.
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      CommentAuthorNeko Ewen
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     # 79
    Some day I need to actually do something with it, but a while back I had this idea for a game called "Distorted Futures: A Dystopian Ass-Kicking RPG". Basically it'd be Equilibrium, The Matrix, Ultraviolet, Aeon Flux (movie version), V for Vendetta, etc. all at once. There's an evil dystopia, and you use stylish violence to bring it down, and possibly die in the process. For some reasons the leader has crazy Kung Fu (or Gun Fu or whatever) skills just like the heroes. It's a thing.

    I have a vague notion now of a Mystery Science Theater 3000/RiffTrax RPG, where you somehow play both a terrible sci-fi B-movie and some guys making fun of it. So on one level you'd be trying to create Plan 9 From Outer Space on purpose, and on the other you'd be making fun of it.

    I will also recomment Highlander II in this respect. Terrible as a Highlander movie, awesome as a crazy kitchen sink schlock-fest.

    Also: Independence Day, Mortal Kombat, Super Mario Bros.
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      CommentAuthorDeBracy
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     # 80
    Posted By: graypawn
    And i'm not commenting on the Good/Badness of it, but someday i want to play a game that feels likeHeavy Metal. I want to play a Dinosaur with a Flying V guitar, that has an Angel in Bondage Gear for a girlfriend.


    That's not my particular brand of Heavy Metal flavor... but I'll say 'Hell yeah!' and play a hot lick on my air guitar anyway to salute you. I'm more for the science fantasy side of things.

    I've seriously concidered running a short series of adventures where that evil green stone would be the center; a WWII thing where it is an occult Nazi treasure found by allied troupes in a partially bombed monastery, an alien artifact that our space heroes are trying to destroy in the future and, finally - or rather initially, a terrible weapon created by a mad sorceror that summons powers from the void. It'd be pretty traditional fantasy stuff but... I'm a little curious about how players would react when they realize that they have to fail in stopping it's creation if it's supposed to make sense in the overall context.

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