[Fiasco] Playsets you'd like to see

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  • Hey, Will, I think it was you who (elsethread) mentioned that you might make the template available for classing up our homemade playsets? Could you maybe do that? I'm polishing up that White Collar set now.
  • edited August 2010
    I have an .indd template and I can share it on an individual basis. Check your mail Colin.
  • Posted By: Jason MorningstarOne of the topics in the Fiasco Companion will be using the game to build an initial situation for another game. We're going to do that with a PTA game, starting this week, actually!

    I think it'd work great for a lot of games that demand a highly-charged and complex initial situation, like Shadowrun.
    That is the hotness.

    Matt
  • Posted By: Caesar_XForget all the fancy artwork and layout.
    Posted By: Jason MorningstarI have an .indd template and I can share it on an individual basis.
    If all goes well with a proposal I've made to Jason and Steve, you won't need InDesign to make a playset that looks almost identical to the existing ones (interior pages, at least, if not also a way to quickly add cover art). Stay tuned!
  • Posted By: Jason MorningstarI think it'd work great for a lot of games that demand a highly-charged and complex initial situation, like Shadowrun.
    So I was totally down with the beauty of Fiasco being that it is NOT about the same old beloved-but-tired RPG settings that bedevil every other game .. but Shadowrun Fiasco I want to play right now. (Relationship: Work: Mr Jones and Shadowrunner)

    Is that floating around anywhere yet?
  • Posted By: Will HindmarchSomeone, here or on RPGnet, was talking about a playset that pitted supervillains against each other. Does this exist? I've got a player from my Fiasco game this week who is eager to play that set, and I'm not sure that I'm the one to write it.
    I tried writing that, but got stalled out. So now I'm trying to rework it to be a Fiasco set in a retirement home for aging supervillains.
  • Similar to Mike Sands' idea, but for AFTER the dungeon crawl, I think the notion of Red Dragon Inn could port well to Fiasco.

    "You survived the maleficent maze and its dastardly denizens, picked it clean of loot, found the object of your quest, and made it all the way back to where you started. Now the REAL trouble begins...."

    Locations could be things like the Inn, Thieves Guild House, the Marketplace, a half-forgotten wine cellar, the high-stakes dice game, etc.
    Objects would be almost obvious: various and sundry loot, a quest object or four, perhaps even followers and familiars.
    Needs would be equally fun (and really easy) to populate with conflict drivers (hmmm.... is there a way to link a Need to an Object or Location or Relationship, with generic-enough language that it stays flexible with other element choices...?).

    Yeah.... I could get into that!
    Relationships could be tougher, though--want tension without going all-in on the dark tone.
  • I have three fantasy sets in the pipeline, one of which is by a D&D luminary and pretty much locked. So that particular avenue of madness is going to be well represented!
  • Posted By: David Artman
    Relationships could be tougher.
    Relationships should clue us in to our classes, and fill in backstory.
  • Posted By: Jason MorningstarI'm really hoping for more slice of life playsets. Somebody on rpg.net joked about a "housewives in cold war Warsaw" set, and that sounds really great to me.
    That's my intention, with the Dr Strangelove + Loring AFB playset. Housewives controlled the social livies, on Loring AFB.

    And problems started by husbands often spilled over..
  • Posted By: ziphtRelationships should clue us in to our classes, and fill in backstory.
    Good point about the classes! By "backstory," do you mean things like in most Fiasco playsets? Things like:
    * Mentor and student
    * Romantic rivals
    * Creditor and debtor
    * Siblings
    ?

    And classes could be great Relationship AND situation generators:
    * Righteous priest trying to fix the wayward ways of the inveterate rogue.
    * Mercenary warrior, and the Warlord who hired him or her.
    * Mystic scholars with two ENTIRELY different schools of thought regarding proper use of the arcane arts.

    So, Jason... is the "D&D Influx" focusing at all on the dysfunctional relationships of powerful people trying to divide the spoils of their combined efforts? (Or, in general, do any deal with more social conflicts and less "dungeon crawling PvP" as suggested above?) If so, I won't burn my last few brain cells trying to crank out an inferior copycat. But if NOT... this could become a little side project on my web site. One thing about a Fiasco playset--you can write it as it occurs to you, without having to necessarily have in mind a plan for whole sections in one shot (as one might with, say, a dungeon crawl module encounters or a DITV town).

    Thanks for the food for thought, either way! :)
  • One is exactly what you describe - powerful adventurer assholes in the aftermath of an epic raid.

    One is set in Henford, the community we collaboratively designed here, so it is full of Henford-rific situations.

    One is pretty generic D&D fantasy, not really focused on a particular situation.

    Go nuts, write more, but there are some good fantasy ones coming. One before 2011 for sure.
  • I'm going to try and whip up a Mario-themed playset before PAX, since I'll be demoing Fiasco there.

    Two Italian plumbers, their mushroom-puff adviser and a posse of dinosaurs try to break the princess out of a deathtrap castle. What could go wrong?
  • A human, an elf, a dwarf and their ratman guide finally reach the treasure they've been questing through the tunnels for: an ancient sword. Everyone wants it, everyone needs it. What could go wrong?

    (Yes, that's the great BW demo scenario The Sword done as Fiasco.)
  • edited August 2010
    White Collar

    Go ahead and tell me how it sucks.
  • After going to the zoo this weekend, I was kind of half-dreaming about a meerkat playset, involving things like "babysitter", "sleepy lookout", "eagle", and "delicious insects".

    After reading about the D&D playset, it occurs to me that the first Grey Mouser story, "Ill Met in Lankhmar", is pretty much a writeup of a Fiasco game. You can totally map it out.
  • The setting of Zombie Porn would work great with Fiasco.
  • Colin, White Collar is a good start, seems to me. I think it could stand a BIT more "op' in terms of unique, evocative elements--a lot of your Objects (and some Relationships) strike me as a bit redundant (at least in terms of narrative impact) and generic (i.e. not much to run with other than "boss and peon").

    My thinking about Fiasco playsets is like Oracles: many (most?) elements SEEM to be unique and precise, and yet all sorts of different ideas about their details pop out as folks riff on them; they are evocative but not proscriptive or predictable.

    But that's just my take from 10,000 feet--I haven't tried to write one (because the idea I dug is already DONE! *pout*).
  • David, I definitely know there are problems with redundant Relationships A few of them are intentional, and differ according to the lens through which they're viewed (the same relationship can be viewed as professional or criminal, in a way parallel to the way that sometimes an activity is gambling and sometimes it's insurance), but there are some just plain repetitive ones in there that I'm going to dike out (two boss/peons under Intramural, two regulator relationships, some of the flat stuff under External). But the objects... I actually thought I did better on that part. Did you have one or two example pairs that you could point out?

    Also, if you can do better, please do! If you think there are salvageable elements in my set, don't hesitate to reuse anything. I'm very aware of my limitations and would rather play your (anyone's) better set than my worse one. Please just send me a link so I can play too.
  • Crap, you pulled the same Critique Jujitsu that I do at work all the time! ;)

    If I find some time (ha!) in the near term, I'll try some suggestions. But I'm just offering a high-level opinion; I'm probably not much better at nuanced changes than anyone else.

    But this makes me think: Fiasco is PERFECT for authoring-by-wiki/committee (much like Oracles are, come to think of it). Using Categories to tag individual line entries (i.e. a "page" in the wiki is just a single element, with a Object/Rel/etc Category). Then folks could easily add new ones, tweak existing ones (or rollback bad tweaks) and you've basically crowd-sourced a playset.

    Hmmm... Jason--you getting this? ;) This is a BPG wiki waiting to happen (much like Vincent should have an Oracle wiki, IMHO). And if it hooks into That Project We've Talked About, so much the better!
  • Yeah, that's a great idea. We use a wiki internally, so maybe a second instance or a public section is an easy thing to put in place. I'll find out.
  • I'd like to see a set for Passover, Jerusalem, 33 AD.
  • I desire ACTING!

    Movies, television, theatre and all the terrible crap going on behind the scenes.

    Tinsel town. Casting couch desperation. Secret bitchfests of the soap opera stars. The writer with the million-dollar script. The part to die for.

    Shakespeare in the park gone bad. Off Broadway gone bad. Community theatre... had a head start.

    It could be one playset, or maybe better as two separate ones for theatre and Hollywood.
  • edited August 2010
    Posted By: Ben RobbinsI desireACTING!
    Community theatre... had a head start.
    Yes! The stakes are low enough to bring out the absolute worst in everyone...

    Here's some idea spray of my own:

    The Coast Guard.

    The Orphanage

    The Retirement Community

    Celebration, FL

    The Amusement Park

    The Megamall

    The Category-Killer Retailer

    The rural high school. I command Ogre Whiteside to write this.
  • I think a Shab-al-Hiri Roach play set would be cool.
  • I'm thinking about doing a supervillain set based on The Flash's Rogues. Mostly so the weapons section can include boomerangs and a cold gun.
  • I have a just-pre-Katrina New Orleans playset almost there.

    A blue-collar space station / deep space ship playset could be fun.

    And a Dr. Horrible playset, of course.
  • I third the idea for community theater production, Broadway production, and Hollywood set playsets.
    Posted By: Marc MajcherI have a just-pre-Katrina New Orleans playset almost there.
    PLEASE tell me you wrote new Tilt tables that are based on the hurricane hitting, with the Act II scenes being just after it's passed!

    ---

    (Maybe a new thread idea, but...) Jason, have you ever thought about having custom Title and Aftermath tables for particular playsets? I realize they would become almost-too-standalone, obviating the need for the main rules once one knows how to setup and play.
  • Posted By: David ArtmanJason, have you ever thought about having custom Title and Aftermath tables for particular playsets? I
    It'll be in the Fiasco Companion, but go ahead and start doing this. It is surprisingly hard.
  • Posted By: David Artman
    Posted By: Marc MajcherI have a just-pre-Katrina New Orleans playset almost there.
    PLEASE tell me you wrote new Tilt tables that are based on the hurricane hitting, with the Act II scenes being just after it's passed!


    That's an interesting idea, David.

    The playtesting I've done on the [redacted] playset that revolves around [a big event] I think plays better when you let the story develop in play, rather than designing the playset to dictate the pace. Just my two cents.
  • Posted By: David ArtmanPLEASE tell me you wrote new Tilt tables that are based on the hurricane hitting, with the Act II scenes being just after it's passed!
    SHHHHHHHH!
  • I think you could make an awesome Imperial China playset, a la Curse of the Golden Flower.
  • I was thinking about how a reality TV show is a kind of Fiasco. I'm betting it could work. I still haven't played enough yet to know, but maybe in the future.
  • Posted By: resistorI think you could make an awesome Imperial China playset, a la Curse of the Golden Flower.
    I haven't seen this movie, but some wire-fu Fiasco could verily be cool.
  • Venture Brothers! Unless that's already been done.
  • edited August 2010
    My White Collar set just got played! It turned out OK, but the worry I had at the very top - that to the extent that it has the right flavor, it will be a bit impenetrable - proved true. Need to think about that for a while.

    EDIT: I mean because of the vocabulary for the finance-world intrigues, like needing to know what a short position is and why they can be so dangerous, what it means for something to be "cartoonishly volatile" and why that can be good, why distressed real property is distressed, the mechanics of mortgage-backed securities, that kind of thing.
  • Putting the "romance" back into "thread necrophilia" ...

    Two ideas have grabbed ahold and won't let go:

    Сиротство: Inside A Russian Orphanage

    and

    Reality TV
  • Reality TV in general is practically a Fiasco without any changes, but making a playset, and maybe adding in special dice rules for confessionals and such, could be really brilliant. For extra gamer weirdness you could take inspiration from Charlie Brooker's series Dead Set, and have a reality show face a zombie outbreak.

    I'd also love to see a playset about behind the scenes stuff for television, maybe a more twisted version of 30 Rock, or something to do with a local news show. I would also be tempted to do one about an anime studio.

    Ooh! And something along the lines of Kids in the Hall's miniseries Death Comes to Town, about a really weird small town and a Grim Reaper running around. (In the KitH version the reaper was pot-bellied and would collect souls in a dustbuster so he could snort them.)
  • One of the awesome things about Fiasco is that it doesn't need lasers on the sharks. No zombies!

    Ooo! Confessionals could be handled in the form of scene framing.

    Local news. Brilliant!
  • Posted By: Chris GoodwinСиротство: Inside A Russian Orphanage
    Desperate children, well-meaning but under-funded administrators, American yuppies looking for a new shiny, shady photographers, organized crime.... wow!
  • You TV guys will like the April PotM: News Channel Six.

    Using stunt dice for confessionals is covered in the Fiasco Companion!
  • You guys have already had all my ideas.

    +1 in space (what happened to the 1970s starshine playset of the month?)

    +1 Victorian/Jane Austen

    +1 Mad Men - White Collar looks pretty close to what I'd want to get out of that, actually - I'm not sure why 'impenetrable' is a problem - as long as there's one guy at the table who understands how that stuff works and can explain it to the others. (Though I'm not that guy, it would probably turn out pretty 'weekend at Bernie's' for me, I'm still game to try it someday.)
  • Posted By: jdfristrom+1 in space (what happened to the 1970s starshine playset of the month?)
    Not sure what you are talking about, but there's a hard SF playset set in Chao Meng Fu crater at Mercury's south pole in the Companion.
  • Gay Pride Weekend

    Pirates

    Something a la Parks and Recreation: small town employees putting on some sort of festival
  • Posted By: jdfristromI'm not sure why 'impenetrable' is a problem - as long as there's one guy at the table who understands how that stuff works and can explain it to the others.
    I think it makes it a hard sell, too.

    That said, I now know of two instances of play, both of which were pushed forward by a single financial-intrigue-fan player, and they were both at least OK. And if you book club ahead of time and have everyone read Liar's Poker or Ugly Americans, I think that you'd solve the hard-sell problem. Liar's Poker even has enough background, on its own, to cover most of the financial stuff.
  • Posted By: Chris GoodwinСиротство: Inside A Russian Orphanage
    I've got a draft of this one: Детские дома (Children Homes). Google document is here for those who want to take a peek, suggest improvements, etc.
  • edited March 2011
    Posted By: Brian MinterSo I was totally down with the beauty of Fiasco being that it is NOT about the same old beloved-but-tired RPG settings that bedevil every other game .. but Shadowrun Fiasco I want to play right now. (Relationship: Work: Mr Jones and Shadowrunner)

    Is that floating around anywhere yet?
    Yes. Pink Mohawks. Go make it better so one of my 2011 predictions can come true.
  • Seems like the Fallout Vaults are tailor made for fiascos.
  • Posted By: WordmanSeems like theFallout Vaultsare tailor made for fiascos.
    Nathan Russell thought so, too.
  • edited March 2011
    Posted By: Jason MorningstarPosted By: WordmanSeems like theFallout Vaultsare tailor made for fiascos.
    Nathan Russell thought so, too.
    Not what I meant. I mean the stories of people inside the Vaults, before they are opened. This page says that, for example, Vault 19 "was segregated into two groups, 'Red' and 'Blue'. The groups lived in separate sections of the vault and the inhabitants may have been chosen due to pre-existing paranoia." Or Vault 92: "Populated largely by renowned musicians, this vault was a test bed for a white noise-based system for implanting combat-oriented posthypnotic suggestion". Or, the infamous Valut 69, where "of the one thousand people who entered, there was only one man". Or, Vault 108, which "houses a cloning lab and all (surviving) residents are clones of one man called Gary".
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